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served since 2002, also focusing on afghanistan. 2013, he has served as the secretary of defense for afghanistan, pakistan and central asia with the assistant secretary of self-defense. prior to this he was deputy assistant secretary of defense for east asia, and then he also served as the dcm at the u.s. embassy in beijing. and last, but not least, it is a pleasure to welcome back an old friend and former u.s. ip colleague. from june 2010 to june 2013, alex thier served for afghanistan and pakistan affairs. before joining u.s. aa, he served here at u.s. ip is a senior advisor and director for afghanistan and pakistan from -- for 2005 and 2010. from 2002 to 2004, he served as an advisor in kabul and also in the 1990's worked in afghanistan for the you and -- . r the un with that i will turn it over to you, mr. grossman. then we will have some time for question and answers. >> thank you very much. let me say thanks to all the organizers of this event and what an honor it is to be on this panel. having served as a special representative, i know what this is about. if you will allow
mainly discuss is defense. it is vital for obvious reasons. at the same time, there is a remarkable positive use of national intelligence. especially at the national intelligence council. it is a group of 100 or 120 academics and intelligence veterans who are very smart and talented. what they do is they analyze. they start with the background of professors that others have in the ad to what they can learn from intelligence. what comes for them is remarkable insight. this is one of the greatest assets the u.s. has. when they can integrate what is on the record with what they learned from intelligence, all of those 16 agencies are available to enable wise decisions. i know the intelligence community did not foresee the decline of the soviet union and do not get the weapons of mass distraction from saddam hussein, but the record overall has been extremely successful. it is a source we do not use enough. one of the basic frustrations is in adequate or in complex -- or incomplete. i work with the current director of national intelligence. a veteran of the intelligence world. he once tur
defense secrets. others go there in order to copy programs into designs and do things like that. the u.s. intelligence community does not conduct espionage on behalf of the american businesses. that does not take place. let's look at this world. one of the most profound events that has happened in the last several years was july 2010. it was a two-faced attack. the delivery system jumped. i do not know who. the new york times reported that the united states and israel were involved. my point is that that kind of attack that can shut down a massive capacity followed by a massive attack in saudi arabia that wiped out 30,000 computers, the scope for damage is huge. suppose you lost a gas pipeline. that pipeline generates electricity. and we were without heat and gas, where would we be? it is an act of war. it is a defense posture we have to take all the time. it is another one of those things where we do not always understand the luxury that we have in the u.s. and the vulnerability that requires an active defense all the time. be friendly to your local security agents. he or she is tryin
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